Lue Elizondo talk at Making Contact Conference

August 21, 2021 - Lue Elizono at Making Contact Conference

This is paraphrased notes not a transcript and there could be errors just thought these would be interesting

Intro

• He isn’t being paid to appear – he knows there was a controversy about that. He tries to do every engagement he can and tries to be as open and available as possible, isn’t making a penny from this. He’s committed to the truth and the truth shall set you free.
• Richard Dolan’s piece very interesting – you can’t have freedom without truth. Truth and freedom go hand and hand in society. He agrees wholeheartedly.
• The opinions are his own and not shared by other panel members or anyone else.
• Theme he wants to talk about is the notion of yesterday, today and tomorrow as it relates to the UAP topic. Tomorrow is the most important question and piece of all of this.

Yesterday

• WW2 – Much of the UAP interest began in the 1940’s, including with the “Roswell Incident”. The incident aside, it started a lot of the conversation. It was a very difficult time for the country because it was right on the heels of WW2. They were entering the new jet age, so people could be anywhere in the world in less than a day. That was revolutionary. Then came the atomic age – we finally unlocked the secrets of the atom which totally revolutionized mankind, for better or worse.
  
• Space age – entering this global competition of who could be first in space, put a person on the moon, control this domain, was truly a new dimension. Other than the lands, and somewhat the oceans, that was all we had control over. Travel was limited previously to being in the atmosphere, space travel suddenly opened up 99,9% more in the blink of an eye.
• We have been evolving sociologically. These growth periods aren’t easy they can be painful. Crab shedding skin. The older generation had to go through some shit – student riots, women with a voice, Vietnam and music revolution, etc. There were real threats they were dealing with – nuclear threats, more lethal than WW2. Us vs. them mentality. There was a real competition.
• Imagine being in the air force and telling a General hearing there’s these things, we don’t understand and they’re not ours. The conversation would have been are they Russian? No it’s too advanced. We don’t know, we have no idea and we can’t do anything about it. The General would have said then don’t bother me with this. I’m not briefing my boss on something we have no solution for. I’ve got legitimate questions every day on a real threat we are dealing with (bc it was Cold War). That’s the mindset and it’s been very pervasive. The subject didn’t get much attention or research funding bc of that.

• Did we have tech capability to really understand it back then or even now? The conundrum is you don’t want to admit as a country that you do not understand it. You show enough to scare the enemy from messing with you. On the off chance it’s Russian tech… you don’t admit that you don't know what it is or how to deal with it. [Lue does not think it is Russian technology]

  Today

• We have adversaries – though sometimes adversaries become friends and vice versa

• Russia in the 60s had a similar situation with US tech as we do today with UAP - could not admit to their people that they had foreign tech in their skies and they couldn’t do anything about it. Fair for us to look at this in context - we had a lot going on and a lot of distraction. It was growing pains (crab metaphor again).

• To some degree, we have solved a lot of the historical social issues but they have been replaced by new ones. The demons faced back then have a different name and face but are still there. Ex.

  • Covid – everyone is emotional about it
  • Terrorism – still alive and well and in fact we aren’t dealing with Afghanistan, we need help to figure it out
  • Women are still treated problematically/mistreated despite 50 years of effort. Still an underlying, very seedy effort to take advantage of the opposite sex.
  • Global competition – market place is changing
  • Climate changing – fires, droughts, things are changing.
  • Equal rights for all – it’s not just women still needing a voice in the workplace, it’s everybody. Still certain sectors of people being underrepresented.
  • Huge social issues we are dealing with and same military priorities we have always had. It’s really tough.
  • Project bluebook, other attempts to soft sell this to scratch the itch and make it go away.
    
  • The events of 2017 changed a lot of the conversation - members of the Senate, H Reid, R Bigelow, G Knapp, others. Plus NYT and the media - it was the first time this is really part of the media, before it was a joke. It was the first time the government said yes we have this UFO program and it started the conversation.

• Last three years -

  • There was release of the three videos and DoD authentication of them.
  • Briefing congress with compelling data, folks coming out and saying hey this is serious after those briefings.
  • People putting their political careers on the line and saying we need to figure this out. Elected officials championing the cause. Presidents admitting to being briefed about UFOs.
  • Acknowledgment by senior gov officials. Aka both legislative and executive taking this seriously. Involvement by academia, individuals involved with Harvard and Stanford.
  • NASA director coming and saying we want in, want to help and spend money looking at this.
  • Establishment of UAP task force. UIG evaluation underway to figure out what’s going on, where did gov go wrong, did we back ourselves into a corner and how do we get out. These are big initiatives.
  • 180 day report – a lot more than people say. The complete report well over 70 pages. People say 17 but he’s sticking to longer, can’t go into detail what’s there but thinks it will come out.
  • 90 day report requirement just came out. Every 90 days now you provide a new report, and including info from the last 100 years you haven’t told me yet. This takes courage to go to the US Gov and say you have explaining to do.
  • Development of comprehensive strategy/road map on how to deal with this stuff in the future and it’s signed off saying this is important. You don’t want legislative or executive branch in front of the other or having more info than the other.
  • International engagement – looking for friendly nations to help, even the UN.
  • Two other areas (1) Media engagement, (2) Legislative and Executive Branch engagement. Washington Post Test – do everything you do knowing it could be on front page of the WAPO could you defend it. Legislative and Executive branches know this.
    
  • Media will cover what they think people want and what people will approve being reported on. In order for L/E engagement, you need people to agree that it’s important.

• He doesn't think we need government to acknowledge anything for disclosure to happen. We don’t need their permission. Why are we asking their approval to talk about something that already exists. Them telling us what they know might not happen. The train is moving regardless of what the government wants. The train has left the station. It’s the same philosophically as asking them to tell us the sunset is real.

• We are relying on a system that was outfitted to protect us and our national sovereignty. It’s not equipped for this. If you ask the government to make a decision they’re not prepared to make a decision on, they’re just not going to do it. And also might not have enough information. He does think USG knows more but they need time to make some changes,

• JJ Abrams doc - they did not do their journalistic duty to talk to sources and get information, they put out what they thought people would like and it wasn’t accurate. That does more harm for this discussion than anything else, creating controversy where it doesn’t exist. Saying the disclosure effort is a deception campaign isn’t fair to the viewer because it's not based in reality.

• He just wants to make facts known. Media want views and clicks. Caution about people creating controversy for that reason. It's easier to sell conspiracy. Pay attention to this.

Future (Tomorrow)

• Newtonian physics was revolutionary – man looking at the blueprint in a different way and beginning to understand it. 50 years ago unlocked the atom. Not only a universe above us but inside us. Operating off different principles, quantum mechanics.
• Just 60 years ago going to space, realizing universe is far bigger than we thought. Not just stars but galaxies out there. In 400 years we have come very far. From realizing gravity to super computing and civilians going to space. We have evolved more in 200 years than since the beginning of mankind.
• Logarithmic/exponential increase – what happens if we contact a species even 400 years ahead of us. Let alone 1 million, 10 million, 1 billion, etc. there has been a lot of time for something to advance. What would that look like. Technological? spiritual? conscious based? We can all agree that if there is something out there ahead of us, even by 100 years, we might not even recognize it.
• We talk to cats/dogs and invest emotions with them, there’s an emotional relationship. But is it human, we don’t know. but we assign anthropomorphic characteristics anyway. We assign qualities to these things that might not come from here at all. Why does it matter? If it's a computer there is no why. It does what it does because it’s programmed to do it. We need to be careful assigning human attributes.
• We need to be prepared to have answers that don’t fit or comport to our current understanding of how things should be. Like what is their motivation, might not be relevant. Less than the how/where and whatnot. It might not be a “Why” question.

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